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Title: How it all stacked up
Post by: bazza2541 on April 25, 2009, 11:50:10 pm
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Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: paul_gt4 on April 26, 2009, 12:12:53 am
what model of GT4 was used for these figures , i'm assuming its the 185 but to be honest i'm not impressed by those figures in comparison to the other cars featured there
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: karbon on April 27, 2009, 10:16:30 pm
I'd assume it was a crate myself.  If we are all being honest, the four was never as quick as its rivals in true speed, its power to weight ratio wasnt and even today isnt close to the scoobys and evos, or the pulsars.  but it wasnt the power of the four that drew a lot of people to it.  (im talking 165's and 185's here only as the faff does resemble a hyundai)  the four is a better looking car than the majority of its rivals, its handling is better than a lot of its rivals, and it never had the chav identity that the scooby suffered(still suffers from) and the Evo is now suffering from.  It was viewed as the grown up choice of the turbo'd 4 wheel drive brigade.

The Galant VR4 if its the EC5a or EC5w version from late 96 on was and still is a fantastic car, and having owned one in JDM Legnum form, those figure would surprise me, id assume the Galant figure are the older 2.0 model.

Lets not forget cars like the renault 5 GT Turbo, a mad little 1.4 that would give a standard 165 or 185 a very close run for its money, or the Charade Gtti which was stupidly fast for a 1.o 3 cylinder turbo.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on April 30, 2009, 10:49:42 am
Probably used a bone-stock 185 indeed, heavy and thoroughly throttled in stock form.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: karbon on April 30, 2009, 04:07:55 pm
Or they used pauls faff.   :D
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: ChrisW on April 30, 2009, 07:05:30 pm
Or they used pauls faff.   :D

You sure????? Times are a bit sharp for the Jaffa???
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: karbon on April 30, 2009, 07:08:11 pm
thanks for pointing out my glaringly obvious mistake, couldnt be pauls as the car used was obviously actually driving and not parked in Momentum!
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: tcc on May 05, 2009, 09:18:47 pm
who cares we drive toyotas
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: fifegt4 on May 05, 2009, 09:54:22 pm
Is it just me or is Paul remaining dignified as as all faff owners are and staying out of it  ;D
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: bazza2541 on May 05, 2009, 09:57:06 pm
Is it just me or is Paul remaining dignified as as all faff owners are and staying out of it  ;D

Nope, he just can't say anything as he only gets to see his car at weekends and bank holidays at the minute. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: paul_gt4 on May 05, 2009, 09:57:49 pm
nope mr fife, i'm always and always will be a crate man at heart, I have that faff because its special in the four world and it everything i wanted in a four, but mark my words i'll be having a CS again. Miss my old one that much i'll have another when i can afford it.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: fifegt4 on May 05, 2009, 10:02:04 pm
Nope, he just can't say anything as he only gets to see his car at weekends and bank holidays at the minute. ;D ;D ;D

LMAO ;D

I must admit i would like to own a red or white CS, maybe when I'm out my time (I can dream)
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on May 06, 2009, 09:36:11 am
The GT4 that first got me wanting a GT4 was a white CS on a campsite in the lakes, sat alone in a muddy field with massive mountains as a backdrop it looked awesome. I'll slowly convert my ATA into a CS, at least in parts!
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: flyingtele on May 06, 2009, 11:00:50 am
The GT4 that first got me wanting a GT4 was a white CS on a campsite in the lakes, sat alone in a muddy field with massive mountains as a backdrop it looked awesome. I'll slowly convert my ATA into a CS, at least in parts!

Haha nice. i got into fours when browsing through cars on the net looking to buy one. Saw a few fours, and thought they looked cool and liked the idea of 4wd turbo, so I did a bit of research into them and their history etc, and I was sold! First car was a four, as was my second (destined as a donor for the first lol) and im pretty sure the next car i buy will be a four.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on May 06, 2009, 12:18:11 pm
Its OK for some, my first car was a 1.1 Peugeot 205 (also a rally god, but not in 1.1 form!) as insurance back then (over a decade ago) was nearly £1000 a year for that (group 4) - a group 17 like the Four would just have been a chuckle followed by a 'click' from the other end of the phone.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: paul_gt4 on May 06, 2009, 12:26:49 pm
my insurance was £2500 when i was 17 on a 1.5 diesel pug 106, and that was for 3rd party only cover....... Northern Irelands insurance is a joke, still is today in comparison to across the water.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: flyingtele on May 06, 2009, 02:05:47 pm
last year when i was 18, third party (the fours market value was not enough to warrant full cover) for my four was $350 NZ (thats about 135 quid) per year and I didn't even have a full license! $1200 excess and cover for up to $1M. I think there will come a law in NZ to make insurance compulsory (I think it should be anyway) and that will push the price up as people wont have a choice, but even it it does go up It still won't be much compared to other places
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: bazza2541 on May 06, 2009, 02:43:41 pm
Am I the only one who got into Celicas for their rally heritage?
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on May 06, 2009, 03:21:21 pm
Bazza - possibly, yes! The Four (Especially the CS) epitomises how I like cars to look (not how I like others to see me, as some people assume) and further investigation found it to be more interesting than just any old attractive car. I was 10 when it was rallying, I had no real following of WRC until later in life. TBH though stuff like scoobies have rally heritage too (to some degree), as do Lancias - but I'd not buy one of either of those! :)
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: bazza2541 on May 06, 2009, 04:17:49 pm
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on May 06, 2009, 04:48:15 pm
Yup, you're old ;)  ;D
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: fifegt4 on May 06, 2009, 05:29:10 pm
I'm kind of the same as coyote, I would say that although I was aware they had rally heritage, I liked the look of the GT-Four, the prices involved and the power figures etc and that's why I bought one. Only after I got one did I became more interested in the rally heritage of the breed.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: paul_gt4 on May 06, 2009, 06:21:53 pm
I became a four fan basically because all of my family are Toyota drivers so i had to follow suit, but i remember going to the Donegal Rally and seeing Austin McHale drivng a TTE ST185CS, and since then i had to have one. We were in the service park in Carndonagh when i got up close to the car and met Austin, that definately made my mind up. Since then I've always wanted and now have a four and i can't see myself not ever having one.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: paul_gt4 on May 06, 2009, 06:25:28 pm
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/5834/bertie-fisher-and-austin-machale-donuts-almc-1997 (http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/5834/bertie-fisher-and-austin-machale-donuts-almc-1997)
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: Coyoteboy on May 06, 2009, 06:41:07 pm
Harking back to the insurance - I think it makes sense to whack up the insurance on high-group cars such as ours, for anyone with little experience. Having come from a 44hp FWD straight to a 200hp 4wd (with some playing with other high power cars in between) I can see how someone who was a little less aware of his mortality could end up squished/squishing others. The thing is they may the insurance of relatively gutless cars high too for learners.

Not sure I was going anywhere with that. never mind!
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: karbon on May 06, 2009, 07:17:38 pm
Am I the only one who got into Celicas for their rally heritage?

If it makes you feel any better, I have been into celicas since i was 16, i started out with a 1977 TA23 2.0gt, which, as im sure you know had a decent rally career, i have since had RA28's, TA40's. RA40's, ST162's and of course ST185's, all of which have rally heritage.  Im a WRC fan through and through but i have no where near your level of knowledge im afraid.
Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: bazza2541 on May 06, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
Heres what its all about.
Watch at 1.03(ish), fastest roll in WRC history. (I'd like to see a 185 or 205 do that)

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Title: Re: How it all stacked up
Post by: karbon on May 06, 2009, 07:47:35 pm
One hell of a roll.

My 185 might end up doing something similar if it doesnt start to behave.