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General Category => The Chill Out Room => Topic started by: silkyst185 on February 17, 2008, 07:47:16 pm

Title: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: silkyst185 on February 17, 2008, 07:47:16 pm
Me and my best friends Nick and Marcus went for a bit of a drive today after cleaning the automobiles!!! here is some of the pics....

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/Nickperry04/IMG_0166.jpg)
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My 4 x 4 attempt with the right rear wheel off the ground

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Cheers for looking
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: peterp1per on February 17, 2008, 10:17:11 pm
nice sheep there at the end.   ;D
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: silkyst185 on February 17, 2008, 10:23:38 pm
the one with the red target on its ass is my wife she is nice :D
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: peterp1per on February 17, 2008, 10:36:24 pm
you lucky bastard !  :D ;D :D
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 17, 2008, 10:54:15 pm
Doc will think there is a bit of porn on at the end of that thread......... some nice pics there, well you certainly took enough of them, not fond of the lazy eye pics but each to their own........ and by the way your smaller vents are the wrong way around they're supposed to face backwards, when my ata was painted the body man put them on the wrong way and whilst out driving on day alot of water from a heavy down pour got in there and wrecked the alternator so a bit of advice turn them round and face backwards, love the gtt always had a soft spot for them
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: silkyst185 on February 17, 2008, 11:03:10 pm
i've had mixed responses to the way in which they go... some people have said they provide more air to the air filter but also saying its not enough to worry about!! thanks for the advice pal they were like that when i bought her, would like to know more about this if poss??
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 17, 2008, 11:05:40 pm
they definately go the other direction and it makes no odds as the car came originally with a closed airbox and its not designed to let more air in its there to let heat out
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: silkyst185 on February 17, 2008, 11:08:19 pm
cheers dude :) better get on that tomorrow me thinks
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 17, 2008, 11:32:26 pm
yeah its simple enough 8mm nuts (i think) but your right will go on the left side this time and vice versa for the holes to line up right
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: ChrisW on February 18, 2008, 12:03:39 am
Looks like a cracking day out, and you got some good weather there as well. Make sure you get them in the gallery ;)

Cheers
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: peterp1per on February 18, 2008, 10:13:50 am
i've always had my nearside vent forward facing to help scoop a little cool air onto the air filter, and my offside vent facing backwards as it was meant to be.
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 18, 2008, 03:18:20 pm
how did you do that peter as if one is on the right way around the other won't line up with the holes unless you got on off another bonnet, they were designed to be both facing backwards and as stated previously it has no or little effect for the air filter, it was designed for engine bay heat extraction, a new 185 came with a closed airbox so toyota never had this in mind for aftermarket parts
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: peterp1per on February 18, 2008, 04:47:33 pm
there not sided, you just unbolt them and spin them round and bolt em back up.

i know toyota designed them for heat extration, and it had a closed airbox as stock.

i turned mine round after i fitted my hks intake kit, and thought well every little helps  :)

i never noticed any detrimental effects from doin that little mod, twas quita a popular little mod back in the day..lol
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 19, 2008, 04:09:02 am
well mines was sided, as the pins were diagonal to each other and they wouldn't fit it they were put on the wrong side and if your putting them on wrong, like my body work man did, water falls directly onto the alternator, causing a failure like mines did on the old ata
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: peterp1per on February 19, 2008, 09:18:28 am
i've not touched the offside vent paul, so no worries of water onto the alternator.

thnking about it the vents maybe sided, but you can spin each vent on it's relevent mounting, i'll have a look later. i just unbolted the n/s one spun it round and done it back up and it fits perfectly. 

i've got me camera with me today so i'll take a little piccy of it.

i've got a fibreglass cs replica bonnet to go on it, as it's front monted intercooled now...well will be when it runs...lol
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 19, 2008, 03:44:57 pm
good to hear lad, i'll see the photo's when you get them done sure
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: Coyoteboy on February 19, 2008, 03:45:29 pm
Problem is that you actually REDUCE the underbonnet flow if you reverse either of the vents - think o it like this - you have air coming in the front in LARGE quantities (through rad and main scoop). The only way out is down, this doesnt clear the upper rear area of hot air. The vents at the back and top of the bay extract the stagnant air to help keep electronics and IC cooler. If you reverse them they tend to push air in at the top-back which reduces air circulation and to a small extent reduces air in at the front. Teh amount of extra "cold" air in is negligible (In fact I'd be surprised if any went in at all), its the interruption of flow that will simply reduce the efficiency. You have to realise that Toyota have a wind tunnel and many engineers working out the best way to put them.

Also, if you extract the air over the car you reduce the under-car pressure, giving better stability at speed. Possibly to a near-zero change but still, its all adding up.
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: silkyst185 on February 20, 2008, 12:00:59 am
so the pics look good then lol
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 20, 2008, 01:03:24 am
yep they do, so did you change them
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: Coyoteboy on February 20, 2008, 08:59:54 am
:) Good pics went without saying. I'm technical man, form is secondary to me :)
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: ChrisW on February 20, 2008, 09:39:09 am
Quote from: Coyoteboy on February 20, 2008, 08:59:54 am
:) Good pics went without saying. I'm technical man, form is secondary to me :)

Function over form here as well, lol
Title: Re: A lovely sunday afternoon with some fellow jap car owners
Post by: paul_gt4 on February 20, 2008, 02:53:10 pm
yeah i'd trust the guys who designed the thing before doing something that looks right logically but technically isn't