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[Coyoteboy]

No no, you miss quote me - I said I never bought one because of its rally heritage, not that I currently have no knowledge of it - get it right  :

[bazza2541]

No no, you miss quote me - I said I never bought one because of its rally heritage, not that I currently have no knowledge of it - get it right  :

Bazza - possibly, yes! The Four (Especially the CS) epitomises how I like cars to look (not how I like others to see me, as some people assume) and further investigation found it to be more interesting than just any old attractive car. I was 10 when it was rallying, I had no real following of WRC until later in life. TBH though stuff like scoobies have rally heritage too (to some degree), as do Lancias - but I'd not buy one of either of those!

Celicas were never a WRC they were group A

[Coyoteboy]

Again, I never said celicas were WRC, just that I didnt follow WRC (and hence read into the rally heritage) until after I bought it. Keep trying

[karbon]

there was a group b celica though.

[bazza2541]

And a group 4 but both were RWD.
165 was first AWD.

[karbon]

165 was the 1st awd celica, though not toyotas first attempt at an awd rally car.

[bazza2541]

Group S doesn't count as it was essentially a prototype.

[karbon]

Took you long enough to go off and find that one.  Group s was the intended group though this was limited to 1200cc engines, the car they developed ran a 2000cc so would never have been a group s car, it would have been a group b car except for the powers to be dropping group b in 1987.  And the car was?

[bazza2541]

Mk 1 MR2.

[karbon]

correct mate.  Would have been an animal if it had made a rally.