GT4EC - The GT-Four Enthusiasts Club
General Category => The Chill Out Room => Topic started by: Coyoteboy on March 24, 2011, 10:28:45 pm
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Can *anyone* match gtfour white? I got acan made up from my filler, too grey. got a standard 040 match, to grey.
pain. in. the. bum
Rally graphics add to insurance premium? Cheaper than a respray?
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You'd need to speak to the insurance company re the graphics?
Have you got a RAL number for the superwhite?
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Don't currently have insurance, but might by the end of the weekend.
Only thing I know about the superwhite is it's 040 (rather than 0400!) from my VIN plate, and that no-one seems to be able to duplicate it, either as standard 040 or by me taking a panel in for matching.
Attached is the wing after I rebuilt it and resprayed it (round the arch). As you can see, it's a million miles off.
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Is it not the rest of the car thats out? The original paint is over a decade old now and may require some serious restoration to get it close to its original shade (assuming she hasnt been resprayed at some point)
\Devils advocate
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Well I'd thought that too but bearing in mind that during the process of prepping the wings I've flatted the original paint back to a matte finish and then polished it back with rubbing compound afterwards, so I'd have thought it'd be as close to original as possible, having removed the top layers. To be fair it is nearer 2 decades old lol. IT comes up lovely, bright and shiny when I do it, so it's not like the other has faded.
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Oh, a replacement fuel flap matches mine too, from another superwhite four.
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Oh, a replacement fuel flap matches mine too, from another superwhite four.
Doesn't that fall into the same ageing category though ?
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Yep, but both aged paints should return to normal when flatted back with 2000 grit sandpaper and rubbing compound?
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It will show less if you put a thin coat over the whole wing so the colour chamge is on joins.
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I can have a look at my mixing kit and see if there's specs for the superwhite in the database. I did a set of wheels in our amethyst White for a White 205 and the bodywork looked creamy once the wheels were on, so the guy had to get busy with his detailing kit, lol.
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Just been informed by an MR2 chappy that there's about half a dozen 040 superwhites from factory. No wonder I'm stuggling. Wonder if Toyota will tell me the mix required?
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Just to complicate matters, I've got codes for 8 ;)
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ERm....................... should only be 2
040 for imports and another colour code for UK cars.
I have just had my spats done. Car now looks cream against them. 2 minutes with the machine polisher and the surrounding area matched.
Depends on how far back you went with the flatting and the standard of return on the polish I suppose. You can still have some dirt engrained into the paintwork if you have just taken a touch off. Bear in mind the GT-fours are quietebad for orange peel, so what you flatted back could maybe have just flatted the peel bobbles. You could still have a bit of muck ingrained in the lower levels of paint. A good machine polish "should" rectify this.
some piccies of the offending areas and the areas you have worked on would help, and then i could maybe give some pointers?
HTH
Cheers
Mike
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Well I managed to get some paint from my local auto paints place. I sat with him for about 20 minutes going through the various sample tab things he had and eventually decided on one that was a Toyota superwhite, it VERY closely matches the bit I took right back with 2000 grit to new-looking (initially nearly matched a bit I've oversprayed!) - its code is "09-02551". There was "09-02552" but it looked a bit more grey, like the one I already tried, and the other one was very yellowy and abit darker again.
Mine's a UK 185 FWIW.
Unfortunately the only paint I could get in that form was 2 pack, so that's going to be a joy to tool up for. Outdoor spraying is the order of the day methinks.
Attached is dodgy arch colour against original white flatted back then t-cut'd.
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Was this by hand? You will be there for hours just to get that wing back to an "ok" Standard. :-[
Think you need to invest in a rotary polisher..........................or get me top come and do it lol!!
good luck with it buddy, hope it works out
Cheers
Mike
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It's fine, not sure what you're suggesting is wrong with it (it's covered in wet-n-dry residue, it's only the colour discrepancy that's at fault), it buffs up in a few seconds from that point. Incidentally im not so sure about your orange peel comment, you can read a book in the reflection on my other (non-sprayed!) body parts?
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You can in peeled paintowrk as well. You just get a slightly bobbled effect, thats all.
If you are appy with it then thats all that counts - you can judge better than any of us as you have the car in front of you :)
mike
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I think 20 years of polishing have left it fairly damn smooth! (You can't read a book in my orange peeled panels lol).
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Well I'm really *BLEEP*ed off with this all. I spent ages trying to get a paint match down at the local auto paint place, we went through all the 040s and compared it to a fresh bit of t-cut'd wing and it looked right. Went to the risk of spraying 2-pack and now it's fecking miles off a match, and whats more my cack-handedness put some pretty nasty runs in the first wing. Got to wait forever now for this lot to cure so I can sand out all the imperfections and then I don't know what - put up with the colour?
Really cheesed off after such a long period prepping and practicing and spending a fortune on paint that doesnt match.
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That's unfortunate mate, but the things that are worth doing are seldom easy.
I guess it depends how much the paint cost as to what the next step should be. Buy some more and respray?
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I've got enough to go again to be honest but despite using forced air I'm sure I've got irritated lungs from it and it's going to take forever to cut the ridges back as 2pack sets like rock, and then I can't even guarantee it's going to not run next time either. Just feeling a bit sorry for myself! :) Still got a rear arch to do too, god help me.
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I'm having the same prob mate, although my car just had a respray last year!
The sprayers last year asked code, told them std 040 superwhite, what they did matched perfectly with OEM painted panels that were not resprayed. I have just come to do a bit of repairwork and the rattlecan 040 does not match up :(
???
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Hi
If you are having that much trouble matching, and you want it to be spot on, then you will need to do a blend onto the door/bonnet and possibly the front bumper.
If you are confident enough could be attempted yourself. However if the paint is a must for you to be spot on, i would suggest maybe have a pro look at it?
I have just had my spats and door painted by my mate. Not blended but pretty much a bang on match when the whole car has been machine polished. A critical eye can tell it is slightly out but hardly noticeable.
Would suggest maybe keying the first 1/4 of your door the side of the bumper and the first part of the bonnet where the dipped beam light turret gurve on the bonnet is and spray to there.
HTH
Cheers
Mike
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Indeed seems to be that you need to blend all butt joints as none of the official 040's match my paintwork. It's not so hard to blend reasonably but to do it well takes a good bit of practice and knowledge of your paint first, if it's for a show car I suspect I'd go down the professional route. For mine, well I'm going to MOT it in patchy poor paint form, then have a go another day when I'm less cheesed off with it. If it still doesn't match I'm going to sticker it as I can't be bothered anymore.
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STICKER BOMB!!!!!!
You know you want to ;)
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Was thinking of this but maybe in blue....
(http://www.imcdb.org/i045928.jpg)
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Not seen that for a while, it's superb. DO IT.