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Offline bazza2541

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Upgrade path.
« on: September 21, 2007, 11:44:47 pm »
From the other two threads I posted, (Yes Gary165, they both came from Power Primer, then again I did already post that).
Here goes.
Im no particular order these should lead to 330bhp (ish) at the flywheel.
Properly lag the charge cooler, fit a larger radiator and an electric fan. CS or RC radiators are popular upgrades.

Install a proper accurate boost guage and a boost controller. Manual ones are cheapest but make sure its a ball and spring type.

Change your spark plugs to one grade cooler.

Fit a larger exhaust 2.5/2.75 inches in diameter with mandrel bends.

Fit fuel cut defender.

Fit high flow cold air intake.

Upgrade turbo to CT-20/CT-27

Replace clutch (ACT2600 is my fav)

Optimise AFR and TVIS on rolling road.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007, 08:24:17 am »
don't you have a 185 ata?

what upgrade is the cs/rc rad? jus get a golpher alu rad of ebay.

fit a fuel cut defender for 330 at the fly. :o..no feckin way. your be maxing the injectors at least even with 540's fitted and the fuel maps will be way way off. (and besides your need another ecu to run different injectors.)

how are you goin to optimise the afr's and tvis on the rollin road? piggy back or stand alone ecu? why would you need the fcd if your going this route?

1. metal headgasket upgrade
2. intake upgrade and sparky plugs
3. exhaust (including de-cat pipe) 2.5" should do
4. 205 charge cooler or front mount intercooler
5. 205 tubby or bigger
6. stand alone ecu and bigger injectors
7. mapping.

and jus for fun  ;D

8.  blown ringlands  :o
9.  full rebuild with forgies
10. tvis removed
11. 205 intake cam or pair of bigger cams
12. remap...lol

jus my 2p
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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 11:09:15 am »
don't you have a 185 ata?
No I have a 165.

what upgrade is the cs/rc rad? jus get a golpher alu rad of ebay.
Working to a budget here hoss.

fit a fuel cut defender for 330 at the fly. ..no feckin way. your be maxing the injectors at least even with 540's fitted and the fuel maps will be way way off. (and besides your need another ecu to run different injectors.)
Standard injection has been pushed to 330 at the flyheel. Again the budget.

how are you goin to optimise the afr's and tvis on the rollin road? piggy back or stand alone ecu? why would you need the fcd if your going this route?
Safc and AFPR.

1. metal headgasket upgrade
Means opening the engine.
2. intake upgrade and sparky plugs
Covered
3. exhaust (including de-cat pipe) 2.5" should do
Covered
4. 205 charge cooler or front mount intercooler
Not necessary.
5. 205 tubby or bigger
Again not necessary.
6. stand alone ecu and bigger injectors
Again with the not required.
7. mapping.
Covered

and jus for fun 

8.  blown ringlands 
9.  full rebuild with forgies
10. tvis removed
11. 205 intake cam or pair of bigger cams
12. remap...lol
I'm not posting this for fun.

jus my 2p
Apparently your 2p costs thousands.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2007, 11:16:30 am »
I think thats a little optimistic really - reckon Im not anywhere near 330hp and I have all of those except the chargecooler setup. I'm fairly sure im not near that because im not really close to max duty cycle on the injectors even at full chat at 11.5:1 AFR. Maybe I'm going wrong somewhere. One day I'll rolling road her and find out it is really, but the ass-dyno lies due to acclimatisation lol.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2007, 11:18:20 am »
I also wouldn't remove the TVIS sub 350hp, the torque benefits far outweigh the slight penalty top-end until that point.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2007, 11:50:13 am »
Its just a condensed version of whats in the Power Primer stuff I posted in my other two threads.
Its all backed up with figures there.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 12:00:33 pm »
Yeah I've read the PP stuff many moons ago, i wasnt accusing your of making it up, but I still wish to express my thoughts that its optimistic!

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 12:43:31 pm »
I think I'll try it on my shed, see how it goes.
I'm gonna adopt it as my tuning bible so to speak.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 12:18:57 am »
don't mean to be rude but...

say hi to all those on cloud cuckoo land for me!

a stock 165 with stock intercooling, stock tubby, stock injectors, stock ecu with fcd and 330 bhp???

hahaha
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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 09:27:21 am »
I know someone at 300 with fuelling tweaks on the stock ECU/engine/turbo.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2007, 02:28:50 pm »
indeed i do to, but pushing an extra 30bhp at that level in my eyes is pushing it.
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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2007, 04:35:28 pm »
How do I delete this thread?

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 08:35:16 pm »
begging generally works.. or swearing like... faff drivers smell of wee..or calling andy s a sheep shagging poof.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2007, 08:44:32 pm »
Cheers for that.
Hopefully once its gone I won't be getting insulted anymore and can go back to learning about my car elsewhere.

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Re: Upgrade path.
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2007, 09:01:57 pm »
 who's insulted you mate...let me at em.! 8)

 

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