Hi All Just got a 1990 GT4

[ChrisW]

I think it would depend on future plans, e.g. throttle body is larger on the 205...

[Coyoteboy]

C-d-B, I'd agree with you, there's absolutely no reason the 205 engine would be more reliable in the long run. People trash 185 engines at higher power because buyers of the 185 are generally those with smaller budget trying to attain the same power and so do it incorrectly/badly - dont bother with MHGs, don't bother to upgrade injectors to ones that can deal with the power output etc. The physical structure of the two engines is so little different as to make no difference at all.

[silverspeed]

Not saying their any better.. just saying to attain a reliable 350 on a 185 standard engine costs. Were as if using a 205 engine a virtually instant 330 plus is available in stock form with a greater platform for enhancement for less money. Trust me, if i ever thought a 205 engine was better than a 185 i'd have one fitted..

205 lump -boost controller - ecu.  A possible 340/400 bhp on tap.

185 ata  - head gasket - different tubby - fmic/pipework - bigger injectors - ecu - aftermarket air intake  Reliable??

[Coyoteboy]

Think we are running into terminology here. the engine, to me, has little bearing on what ancillaries are bolted on like ecus, intercoolers etc. the core components,block, internals, manifolds etc are pretty damn close. wth a 205 you need new injectors, ecu etc to do 350+ too, as can be seen by the countless 205 owners with smashed ringlands?

[drumow]

Hi all hope all u guys are well just started working on the Celica and first thing i am going to do is change the pistons to forged ones, change the gasket from paper to metal and skim the cylinder head

[ChrisW]

Hi mate, all is well now the sun's out. Sounds like you're making a good start on ya four, might be worth checking the cylinders are still round....
Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

Cheers

[andy]

good luck with the build fella

i reckon that kit looks nice, respray in a different colour might suit it better tho